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Just drop it.

Journal Entry: Sat Nov 10, 2012, 2:13 AM


I'm home after a long day of driving, going out for dinner, and catching up on a little comic. It'll be posted soon.

Okay, so CyberPrisoner posted a journal a while ago claiming that she caught the lemon reporter, ev0net. He/she has been suspended for "false" reporting.

First of all, ev0net was NOT the one reporting the lemons. He/she was reporting deviations that had copyright material or stolen artwork. Quite a few reader-inserts have that, and that is a violation of dA policies just as much as having pornographic literature. If the reader inserts or lemons had a stolen picture, THAT'S what he/she reported on--NOT the lemon content. I see where that reporter was coming from. I wouldn't be happy seeing pictures that made the front page simply because he/she used someone's work without permission.

In addition, that person has been reporting stolen artwork for several months--maybe even years--way before this issue started. I don't know where people got the idea that ev0net was the culprit, but the real reporter is still out there--probably laughing his/her ass off while the rest of this community either believes that this thing has been resolved or still have a bone to pick with dA.

Posting pornographic literature was forbidden from the start. Even when I posted my first lemon, I knew that. I did it anyway. I knew it could have been taken down, but I felt that it didn't matter since the lemon wasn't significant to the main plot. All of you writers out there claiming that it was wrong for lemons to be not posted up but nudity can run around freely should know that pornographic content has specific rules. Look, it's posted as clear as day if you know where to look.

This is considered to be porn in visual form: help.deviantart.com/565/

And this is considered to be porn in literature form: help.deviantart.com/251/

It doesn't make any sense as to why everyone should be upset. They should know that they were violating dA rules--just like they should know that every time they use a picture that isn't there's, it's considered stealing unless they specifically got permission from the artist him/herself.

This is all becoming too much. If you guys are that desperate to read lemons, post them somewhere else. They aren't allowed in dA and they never were to begin with.

Whatever the true reporter hoped to accomplish, it's become that and more. It's getting too chaotic. I implore you to just drop the whole thing. It isn't even worth your time. From now on, why don't you read the rules before submitting? Why don't you try to ask the artist of a beautiful piece of art for permission to use it for your fan-fiction before deciding to steal it? Seriously, just because you credit someone doesn't mean you got permission to use the work. And how many of you who use pictures actually credit the actual artist? How many of you link your picture back to the original site you ripped it off of? I've seen many reader inserts use preview pictures that weren't their's so it's no surprise if some people on this fan base got reported not because of pornographic content, but because of using pictures without permission. If you go through the actual act of getting permission from the artist via dA policies, it's a pain in the rear, and I don't think anyone here has bothered to go through with it.  

If anyone really wants to properly get permission from the artists they used their works from, this is how you do it: help.deviantart.com/193/

I truly hope everyone will open their eyes and realize that there are rules on websites just like there are in just about any aspect of society. Please do not jump the gun and always feel that the way you believe is the right way. Sure, as we say here in the United States, "freedom of speech," but that doesn't mean you can yell "fire" in a theater.

As of this point, since I believe the reporter has no right to bug those who have properly abided by dA rules (at least I hope that's the case), I'm just going to shy away from this whole incident. My lemons may have been removed, but that doesn't mean I didn't save them. I've lost too much precious time I could have been investing towards contest entries, commissions, and reader inserts. I would hope that you all wouldn't waste your time like this anymore, too.

Good day/night.

~❦~
Skin and graphic by GydroZMaa
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kiddopolis Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Student Writer
I also reported Ev0net and had him temporarily suspended, but not for reporting things.
No, the reason I reported him was because he was cussing and abusing members. That's all.
Honestly, he was doing the right thing reporting all those deviations. I mean, it annoys me that so many people think it's right to post all this crap. It makes it worse when they hit the front page too. :/
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m00nlight101 Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
And God said "So let it be!"
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Hetaliafan3582 Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012
I completely agree with you, but what bothers me about deviantart is that there is pornographic imagery on here and it's popular. Thousands upon thousands have seen it, for example, excuse my language, vulgar tastless art, such as a smacked ass or some plastic girl in a bra are every where. Or the risque, big breasted comic style girls who show up on the front page. It content doesn't bother me, it's that despite deviantart rules, they don't get removed. I've dealt with deviantart's hypocrisy time and time again...

Say the matter of TRACED BASES on deviantart. The "artists" say in their description, I've been reported before, nothing has happened to me and go on with their happy, stealing lives. They often use professional imagery or popular fan art with only a link to the original picture, usually on zerochan or photobucket. (don't even get me started on those)

I'll stop before this gets worse, sorry for the mini rant.
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Dezi-Wezi-Bezi Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Exactly what's been going through my mind the past few days! Everybody's extremely upset because their lemons are being reported, yet they fail to realize it actually is against the ToS. Then they talk about how flat out pornographic images make it to the front page sometimes. It's not fair, but of course DA can't run everything perfectly 24/7. Plus all these journals regarding this issue are taking up too much of my inbox. WAY too much. I just counted about 21 of said journals in my inbox. And that's just from one group. I'd hate to see how many I'd get if I watched any other Hetalia-related groups.
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rainbownicole4444 Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Student General Artist
Bless this post.
This is exactly what I've been waiting for someone to say!

Thank you so much for writing and posting this.
I'm sick of all these angry, idiotic posts, and I'd like to hope this ends it all.
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xTheXMonsterXWithinx Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I would have said something about it to, but it wouldn't have been worded kindly like yours. :/

Now, lemons were allowed on DA to begin with. And my question is what is making someone people think that their allowed on sites like FanFiction.net? >I It's against the rules there too.
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GydroZMaa Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Professionalism is close to credibility, at least, that's what I was taught in my English classes.

Actually, I haven't seen anyone claim that posting their lemons on FanFiction.net was an alternative. If anything, they know that FanFiction.net has even stricter policies.
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xTheXMonsterXWithinx Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
It's true~

It really wouldn't surprise me to see lemons on FanFiction.net in the following hours and/or days, really.

Also, it really pisses me off that someone took the fall for something that they didn't do, and then people try to argue that it was them. (Note: I'm saying that you are, it's clearly stated in the journal that it wasn't him/her.)
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xTheXMonsterXWithinx Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
*I'm not saying that you are,

Oppsie-whoopsie.
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sonicluver101 Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hopefully this can all just pass by. ^^; I'm glad you're going to push past it, though, and that you still have the lemons you wrote saved so that you can perhaps direct them to another site ^_^

And by the way, thank you for posting that credit thing o 3o
I don't think I ever use preview pictures made by someone else (I'm usually too shy to ask, so i don't even bother xD), but I guess if a friend made a picture that i could use, I can prove that i asked for permission o v o
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