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I need to know something...

Journal Entry: Thu Nov 8, 2012, 6:09 PM


Like many of the journals have stated, there has been a domino effect of lemons being taken down. The furthest I remember was when it started with the entries of xCreativePoppet's shower lemon contest. At first it was only the winners and honorable mentions that were reported. Soon, after posting journals pointing out that there was someone who might have been a sore loser, more lemons started to get reported.

There's been some suspicions as to whether or not ev0net was the one behind it, but it's not. Don't bash the person for the lemons. That user is reporting those who post things without permission such as preview pictures or motivational posters. As that person specified in addition to dA's own policies, crediting does not mean getting permission. Lots of people don't even credit the artist so I can understand where that person is coming from. That user even said he/she doesn't report lemons.

I don't know who the person is, but I still feel that it has a strong connection to xCreativePoppet's contest. That's when I remember seeing the reports coming up.

This is important:
As of the time this journal is being submitted, has anyone recently had a lemon reported before one day and 8 hours ago?

Because that's when mine was taken down.

An hour after my lemon was taken down, I posted a journal saying it was suspicious that it only happened to the winners and honorable mentions of the contest. Three hours later, xCreativePoppet posted a journal proposing an investigation. Then, came the domino effect of even more lemons being taken down a little while after she posted the journal. More journals came.

Looking at the users who have gotten their lemons taken down, I'm coming to the conclusion that someone is trying to cover up his/her trail since this person seems to only be attacking Hetalia lemons. Since that person has already been suspected of being connected to xCreativePoppet's contest, he/she is trying to look less-suspicious by reporting lemons not related to the contest but still in connection to the Hetalia fanbase.

A good graphic example can be found in Chapter 53 of Detective Conan: www.mangapark.com/manga/Detect…

I apologize if the link is filled with viruses. >.< I wouldn't know since I have a virus-proof computer.

Either that's the case, or that person is upset with the violations of dA policies. But no matter how I look at it, it seems all too suspicious that the reports would suddenly come now when lemons have been around for much longer.

There's another possibility that this person does not like a particular group of writers on the Hetalia fanbase and is attacking them while picking off some others to look less-suspicious, but that makes it even more suspicious.

dA specifically states that submission of graphic pornographic literature is prohibited so in a sense, that is our faults, but considering these reports have only been popping up recently is fishy to me. I would at least like to know this reporter's motivations behind reporting the lemons like this and in such a blatant and obvious way. I'm very upset about this. I hope the reporter confesses and offers the community an apology. I and the select unfortunate writers worked hard on our submissions. It's a shame that so many have been taken down just because of a simple inability to cope with a loss.

~❦~
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SilvercrossXAbsol69 Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I understand Ev0net's point on copyright, I just want to know who is attacking the Hetalia lemons so I can fucking give them a peice of my mind!
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sonicluver101 Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
IttyBittyTidbits pretty much summed up my feelings, in a sense ^^;

I'm sure there's a site you can find to post your lemons on. But that shouldn't stop you from writing and showing your other work and keeping it on here ^^
And if you have a lemon part for a story, or just one in general, then you can always link to it from this page. I don't think that's against the rules, since it's not /actually/ on the site ^__^

But I understand your frusteration if the person is being a coward and reporting to be a sore loser, then covering up their tracks. It's a difference if they're doing it because it violates the code or if they lost the contest.
But if they're reading all of these journals and reasonings, I'm sure if discovered and approached (and actually did report because they lost the contest) they'd most likely try and worm around the 'sore loser' accusation and claim they did it because of going against DA's rules. So either way, I hate to say but it may be a lose-lose situation. Unless you just want the satisfaction of knowing who it was. Then i suppose you could say you won in a sense.
Either way, I hope you and the other writers get the peace of mind you deserve and don't have to worry anymore about more of your work getting reported. And I really don't want you to have to move accounts or leave DA because of this. We all really enjoy your work, writing AND art, and even just hearing about things going on in your life (like your chickens : D ) that you share with us.
And something like this may be aggrivating, but i certainly hope it wouldn't make you want to leave the site >o<
So like i said before.. I hope you can find a site to post your lemons and other works like that on, and perhaps can just link it back to everyone on here ^_^ And I also hope the person reporting has a justifyable reason for doing so and isn't just being a cowardly sore loser. ;

Also, I didn't know you read Detective Conan! I remember that case, too! Love that series >v<~
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GydroZMaa Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
As far as I can tell, the only submissions that have been getting taken down were either lemons like mine or submissions with stolen artwork. I don't mind the stories getting removed for stolen artwork. I've always had a problem with that. So all of those things aside, I think I'm pretty much safe. I'll eventually find a site where I can post the things if the situation really called for it.

There's a lot of things you don't know about me. :ninja: Yes, I read Detective Conan. It's full of ways to (almost) getting away with the perfect alibi.
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sonicluver101 Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Alright. ^_^ But it is understandable if someone took down ones with stolen artwork. A lot of stories, not even just lemons, do that ;

Pfff. Well yes, I would assume so x3
You got me in the mood to want to go read it again. Problem is i have no idea where i left off. Bahh e~e;
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HeartOfFireSoulOfIce Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
We think alike. I was thinking the same thing. Or maybe it was one person who had something against one of the winners/contestants, and decided it was a good idea to use the contest to do this?
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GydroZMaa Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Perhaps, but at this point, it doesn't look like the reporter's going to come out and say he/she did it so we may never know.
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HeartOfFireSoulOfIce Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
True... I wish there was a way you could hack into the system and find it. I know quite a few people who can hack stuff for me.
One thing I don't think the reporter is, is that he's stupid enough to NOT report his. If he's clever enough to set this all out, for all we know, he could have had an accomplice. He could have told the accomplice to report his deviation to draw attention away from himself.
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GydroZMaa Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
That's another possibility. Honestly, I'm just sick of this crap that's been happening. I don't care anymore. I won those contests fair and square, and I've received (most of) the prizes. It really shouldn't matter what happens up to this point.
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TheLemonAlchemist Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I have to ask...Does anyone else suddenly feel like L trying to catch Kira?
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sonicluver101 Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I wish there were 'likes' or 'thumbs up' on DA, because i would give your comment all of the thumbs ups |'D
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